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10-17-2008 @ 11:13 PM
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Moongoddess, I do enjoy reading your thread but your last post I found amazing.
I myself have a 4 year old daughter, as of all children of that age they are inquisitive and ask questions, this is how they learn. I do not want to offend anyone but seriously at 25 or 26 stone you probably do stand out from the crowd and children may well not understand why you are 'fat'. I fail to see how it is a fault of the parents if their children ask questions!!! Sure its embarassing to you but surely you can understand it from a childs HONEST AND OPEN point of view?? And as for giving the parents some verbal I personally think you were out of order, threatening court etc etc, they probably thought you were unhinged so no wonder they didnt apologise!
I will give you an example of something that happened a couple of days ago:
after taking my daughter swimming I always take her to the shop for a comic, at the time a man was outside the shop smoking a cigarette and coughing (loudly). My daughter couldnt not notice him and asked me openly what the man was doing and why. I explained that the man was smoking a cigarette and they make you very poorly with a bad chest and bad cough. Her own response was 'he's a very silly man to do that, mummy' to which I said she was very right and I never want her to smoke cigarettes which will make her ill. She understood and said she never would and they are 'silly and stinky'.
The point of this is we all have to make our children understand what is really unhealthy and the only way to do that is for them to question everything, sometimes these questions are embarassing but we are the adults and its up to us to behave like it.
Once again I do not wish to offend but it really comes across that you are really really embarassed about your size but at least you are doing something about it.
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10-17-2008 @ 11:41 PM
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Hi Moonstone,
I find your post quite offensive to me, so I imagine there are others, including our dear MoonGodess, that will be shocked at your post.
MG was blaming the parents-not the children. It’s up to the parent to control their child in public.i could go on forever about the raising of children but right now its irrelevant-What happened to MG is AWFUL-and something many of us can relate to. Now most of you on here know I rarely say hard words but I am appalled that you could reply to MG's post, saying you read and enjoy it-and then respond with those words.
Ali
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10-18-2008 @ 12:06 AM
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Hi Ali, I said I read and usually enjoy the THREAD, that is why I was so surprised by her latest POST which to me sounded irrational and over-the-top.
Ali, if my daugher asks me a question in public (like she did about smoking) I should tell her off? For what? For asking a question which will get an embarassing answer?? For questioning something they see? My goodness how are kids going to learn!
And yes my daughter has also asked me why her grandad has a big belly, I explained it was because he ate too much. This is a fact regardless of who doesnt like it.
Anyway goodnight all, I dont want to take up anymore of Moongoddess'thread with my 'offensive'posts.
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10-18-2008 @ 11:02 AM
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Come on guys lets not fall out!!
I can see it from both points of view..... Yes it is rude to openly point and stare at people who are appear to be different from us BUT children will always stare and ask questions because that is how they learn BUT it is up to the parents to, both answer the child but also teach them social manners. Perhaps the parents were embarresed and would have dealt with the child at home when out of earshot to prevent any more embarressment to moongoddess and themselves, however moongoddess chose to approach the mother and the woman was probably taken aback!! The parents were probably ashamed, the husband did seek her out to apologise and obviously make exuses that were silly!!
I have a daughter who has just turned six and once in a que in a shop the woman infront of us was painfully thin, my daughter said to me mum that women is really really skinny, now I never created a scene in the shop, I discreetly pulled on her arm and smiled through gritted teeth at her but when we left the shop I explained to her that she should never comment on how others look as it is rude and bad mannered and that the women may have been very ill and she could have hurt that womens feelings, I also asked her how she would feel if someone commented on her appearance, for example made fun of her ears, nose etc and she said that she would be sad and I said well you can't comment on others or you will make them sad!!
So MoonGoddess it is horrible that you were made to feel like this but the children were only 5 and 3 they are too small to be that intentionally cruel and as I say as a parent I would have spoken to my children at a later time not in a busy resturaunt where I would have only made the situation for the other person more embarressing..
But as I said come on girls we are all here to support each other and I beleive MoonGoddess was only looking for some moral support as, rightly so, her feeling were hurt and she needed a lift from us!!
So MoonGoddess ignore the brats.... lol, stick with it, your doing so well and you know what, even if those parents werent going to have a talk with them maybe after seeing how hurt you were it will have made them realise that when they got home they would have to!!!! Maybe you taught them a little parenting skill 
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10-18-2008 @ 2:53 PM
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Moonstone, there is nothing wrong in explaining something that is asked by your child, as you said they need to learn. But just ignoring the situation, as if nothing has been said............How is that teaching them??.............that it is perfectly ok to be down right rude!!!!!!!
Surely making the children come across and apologise for what they said would be teaching them that it is rude to speak like that about people, next time they would think twice about opening the angelic little mouths. 
This message was edited by shazzy on 10-18-08 @ 8:32 PM
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10-18-2008 @ 8:40 PM
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What a nice, positive and encouraging post by moonstone
What a nice lady.
This message was edited by MoonGoddess on 10-18-08 @ 8:59 PM
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10-19-2008 @ 5:27 PM
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And we wonder why most of today's children are so badly behaved and ill mannered. With parents like Moonstone the brats don't stand a chance of turning into pleasant adults and will have a tough time later in life.
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10-19-2008 @ 8:15 PM
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MG, don't let her comment get to you-Keep going sweetheart-I also hope the experience with those idiots in the restaurant does not stop you from going out again soon-god knows you deserve it.
xx Ali
This message was edited by sheknows on 10-20-08 @ 9:19 PM
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10-20-2008 @ 9:15 PM
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Come on guys, talk about storm in a tea cup!
I am sure every woman at some stage has felt uncomfortable about their appearance. Whether it is a strangers look on the bus, a childs question or our own insecurities.
I know that I stopped going out regularly with a group of friends because I was tired of always being the fattest person in the room. It wasn't anyone else's fault, but I felt bad about myself.
The children may or may not have known they were being naughty, the parents may or may not have been going to speak to them on the quiet later on.
The important thing is that we are all trying to do something to make ourselves look and feel better so that embarrassing situations don't happen and we can all walk into a room with our heads held high and feel confident and proud of what we have achieved.
We need it to be us against the pounds and kilos not against each other
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10-20-2008 @ 9:38 PM
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Hi new to this so bear with me.I have just been reading the thread and I agree with Moonstone.
Children see things larger, wider and taller than we do.
At the age of 5 and 3, they can't be blamed for their behaviour, the adults, however should know better,and should have dealt with the situation more subtlety.
I also agree that Germans are much more judgmental than us Brits.
Really sorry that this has happened to you, but I also feel you could have handled the situation in a more mature way.
Hopefully this is a forum where people can have an opinion without anyone taking things personally.
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